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Re: An alternate All-30s Team

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:51 pm
by JuggernautJ
Isn't the "Green Bay prejudice" due in part to the fact that the Green Bay Press Gazette was one of the few sources of All Pro ratings in the early days of the NFL game?

Taking a look at the (more-or-less randomly selected) All Pros from 1925 there are only two sources listed by PFR: Collyers Eye Magazine and The G.B. Post Gazette.
One might conclude that this is a major reason for many of the "homer" choices.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... allpro.htm

Re: An alternate All-30s Team

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:20 am
by TanksAndSpartans
JuggernautJ wrote:Isn't the "Green Bay prejudice" due in part to the fact that the Green Bay Press Gazette was one of the few sources of All Pro ratings in the early days of the NFL game?
That makes sense at the margins (i.e. who gets the nod Hinkle or Gutowsky?), but none of Svendsen, Goldenberg, Lee, or Letlow actually had significant postseason honors. They seem to have been pulled out of nowhere in '63 or whenever the '30s all-decade team was released by the HOF.

Re: An alternate All-30s Team

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:59 am
by rhickok1109
JuggernautJ wrote:Isn't the "Green Bay prejudice" due in part to the fact that the Green Bay Press Gazette was one of the few sources of All Pro ratings in the early days of the NFL game?

Taking a look at the (more-or-less randomly selected) All Pros from 1925 there are only two sources listed by PFR: Collyers Eye Magazine and The G.B. Post Gazette.
One might conclude that this is a major reason for many of the "homer" choices.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... allpro.htm
The Press-Gazette All-Pro teams were based on a poll of managers and reporters from all the NFL cities.

Re: An alternate All-30s Team

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:15 am
by TanksAndSpartans
Thanks Ralph. I didn't realize that.

Re: An alternate All-30s Team

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:48 pm
by JuggernautJ
Likewise.
Thank you Ralph, as always, for sharing your knowledge of those times.

Re: An alternate All-30s Team

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:57 pm
by JameisLoseston
There's a problem with T&S's team that I somehow didn't notice on my first pass through this thread. Hutson is wasted if he doesn't have someone to get him the ball, and I don't trust Dutch Clark to do that on a regular basis. So Herber will need to be on the first team, which means someone will need to be moved off, but man, it's so hard to choose one. Definitely not Clark or Blood... probably Battles, unfortunately.

Re: An alternate All-30s Team

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:25 am
by TanksAndSpartans
:). It's a backfield geared towards the run for sure. Maybe Nags can shoot some jump passes to Hutson and Blood.