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Looking for stats
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:29 am
by lietzaro24
I'm looking for some stats that I believe are rarely published. I found these stats in the Pro Football Handbooks that were published by Stats Inc. from 1995-2001, also in Pro Football Revealed 1994 by Stats Inc. I haven't been able to find them anywhere else besides the Advanced Stats portion of pro-football-reference.com but only from 2018 to the present. I'm curious if anyone would have any knowledge of where these stats might've been published, whether it be in books or somewhere on the web, from the 2001 season to 2017 or before 1993. I've looked at a lot of websites over the last few days and haven't found anything like this
What I'm looking for are bad passes (by QB), Yards after Catch (YAC), Drops (by pass receiver). All 3 of these were in the Stats Inc. publications that I've listed above for players who played a decent amount of their team's snaps and not for the seldom used players. I'm also looking for QB Hurries by pass rushers, which I found in the advanced stats of pro football reference from 2018-present. If anyone knows where that info might be found online or published in books, please let me know. QB Hits may have to suffice in this case and I know where I can find that information, just curious if Hurries are published anywhere.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Rob
Re: Looking for stats
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:15 pm
by TodMaher
lietzaro24 wrote:
What I'm looking for are bad passes (by QB), Yards after Catch (YAC), Drops (by pass receiver). All 3 of these were in the Stats Inc. publications that I've listed above for players who played a decent amount of their team's snaps and not for the seldom used players. I'm also looking for QB Hurries by pass rushers, which I found in the advanced stats of pro football reference from 2018-present. If anyone knows where that info might be found online or published in books, please let me know. QB Hits may have to suffice in this case and I know where I can find that information, just curious if Hurries are published anywhere.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Rob
There are a couple of sources that publish YAC - the problem is that the numbers are different from each source
https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/stat/receiving
https://www.footballdb.com/statistics/n ... /receiving
There is an official number that the NFL keeps, but they don't make it public beyond a play-by-play basis on the GSIS site in the "Play Statistics Report."
Places like Pro Football Focus keep track of things like QB Hurries but it will cost you $$$.
Re: Looking for stats
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:15 pm
by TodMaher
TodMaher wrote:lietzaro24 wrote:
What I'm looking for are bad passes (by QB), Yards after Catch (YAC), Drops (by pass receiver). All 3 of these were in the Stats Inc. publications that I've listed above for players who played a decent amount of their team's snaps and not for the seldom used players. I'm also looking for QB Hurries by pass rushers, which I found in the advanced stats of pro football reference from 2018-present. If anyone knows where that info might be found online or published in books, please let me know. QB Hits may have to suffice in this case and I know where I can find that information, just curious if Hurries are published anywhere.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Rob
There are a couple of sources that publish YAC - the problem is that the numbers are different from each source
https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/stat/receiving
https://www.footballdb.com/statistics/n ... /receiving
There is an official number that the NFL keeps, but they don't make it public beyond a play-by-play basis on the GSIS site in the "Play Statistics Report."
I believe places like Pro Football Focus keep track of things like passed dropped but it will cost you $$$.
Re: Looking for stats
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:45 am
by lietzaro24
Thanks for the info and your help, Tod. PFF does have 3/4 of what I'm looking for going back to 2006. So at least that's something. However, you are correct, their statistical services are quite expensive and it only goes back 15 seasons. The price of $200 a year or $35 a month is a bit much especially since I'm not interested what they are really charging the big bucks for. Anyway, I'm still trying to at least fill in the blanks from 2001-2005 and anything pre-1993. I doubt anything pre-1993 exists but you never know. I know the Sporting News Registers from 2002-2005, maybe 2006, were partnered with Stats, Inc. and they advertised on the front cover "Includes Information from the former Stats Inc. Pro Football Handbook" whatever that entails, I have no idea.
The Pro Football Handbooks by Stats had what I'm looking for, the Sporting News Registers had good information but not as detailed from a statistical standpoint as Stats Inc. publications. I'm guessing the stats that they fill the registers with from 2002-2006 are probably more detailed than pre-2002 TSN Register just not as detailed as we were accustomed to Stats Inc. publications being. I may pick up a few TSN Registers from 2002-2006 just to see what's in them. Ebay and Abebooks have some of each for sale.