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Fumble recovered stats
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:49 pm
by Apbaball
How far back are these stats available for players in the NFL and AFL? How about the number of total team recovered fumbles?
Re: Fumble recovered stats
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:33 pm
by TodMaher
Apbaball wrote:How far back are these stats available for players in the NFL and AFL? How about the number of total team recovered fumbles?
Individuals:
1945 for the NFL.
1967 for the AFL.
Team:
1941 for the NFL.
1960 for the AFL.
1946 for the AAFC.
Team opponents recoveries for the NFL go back to 1938.
Re: Fumble recovered stats
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:05 pm
by Apbaball
TodMaher wrote:Apbaball wrote:How far back are these stats available for players in the NFL and AFL? How about the number of total team recovered fumbles?
Individuals:
1945 for the NFL.
1967 for the AFL.
Team:
1941 for the NFL.
1960 for the AFL.
1946 for the AAFC.
Team opponents recoveries for the NFL go back to 1938.
Thanks. So am I correct in reading your encyclopedia that the 63 Raiders lost 15 fumbles and recovered 17 opponent fumbles? Is there a way to tell how many of their own fumbles they recovered? If they fumbled 19 times per pro football reference and their opponents recovered 15 then they recovered 4 of their own. So total fumble recoveries should be 17+4=21, correct?
Re: Fumble recovered stats
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:45 pm
by TodMaher
Apbaball wrote:TodMaher wrote:Apbaball wrote:How far back are these stats available for players in the NFL and AFL? How about the number of total team recovered fumbles?
Individuals:
1945 for the NFL.
1967 for the AFL.
Team:
1941 for the NFL.
1960 for the AFL.
1946 for the AAFC.
Team opponents recoveries for the NFL go back to 1938.
Thanks. So am I correct in reading your encyclopedia that the 63 Raiders lost 15 fumbles and recovered 17 opponent fumbles? Is there a way to tell how many of their own fumbles they recovered? If they fumbled 19 times per pro football reference and their opponents recovered 15 then they recovered 4 of their own. So total fumble recoveries should be 17+4=21, correct?
Yes.
https://www.profootballarchives.com/1963afloak.html
Re: Fumble recovered stats
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:13 am
by Apbaball
Thanks. Do you find pro football archives to be more reliable than pro football reference?
Re: Fumble recovered stats
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:59 pm
by TodMaher
Apbaball wrote:Thanks. Do you find pro football archives to be more reliable than pro football reference?
I try to make it as reliable as humanly possible.
Re: Fumble recovered stats
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:03 am
by Apbaball
Is there any data for team sacks and own QB sacked for the AAFC?
Re: Fumble recovered stats
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:58 pm
by TodMaher
Apbaball wrote:Is there any data for team sacks and own QB sacked for the AAFC?
They attempted to record it on the official scoresheets, but it was inconsistent and often those pages are missing from the existing scoresheets.
Re: Fumble recovered stats
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:36 pm
by Jay Z
TodMaher wrote:Apbaball wrote:Thanks. Do you find pro football archives to be more reliable than pro football reference?
I try to make it as reliable as humanly possible.
I have submitted a couple of fixes to pro football reference in the last year. One a jersey number, one a player on the wrong team. The player was from 1969, which is not exactly the Stone Age for professional football.
Everyone makes mistakes, but if we go to "single trusted source" then errors can definitely creep in that can be propagated a ways down the path.
Re: Fumble recovered stats
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:25 pm
by Apbaball
So they probably don't have yards lost attempting to pass either?