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Dorsett picked up on the cheap
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:36 pm
by BD Sullivan
The Cowboys' deal to get Tony Dorsett (moving up from #14 to #2), only involved them giving up the three second round picks they had accumulated: one was the #2 in the second that they got from the Bills in exchange for Pat Toomay nearly two years earlier; one was #13 from the Chargers in exchange for Clint Longley AND the chance to switch places in the first round, which moved them from #24 to #14, and one was their own at #26.
The Cowboy also had two picks in the 3rd round in '77, whiffing on their own pick with Val Belcher, but hitting big with the pick from Philly they got in exchange for John Niland in September 1975 by picking Tony Hill
Re: Dorsett picked up on the cheap
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:22 am
by Bryan
I think Bud Grant got fined by Pete Rozelle for saying that the Cowboys were "in bed" with the Seahawks.
Did the Cowboys make the deal before they knew that Dorsett would be available at #2? Or was it public knowledge that the Bucs were going to take Ricky Bell at #1?
Re: Dorsett picked up on the cheap
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:37 am
by SixtiesFan
Bryan wrote:I think Bud Grant got fined by Pete Rozelle for saying that the Cowboys were "in bed" with the Seahawks.
Did the Cowboys make the deal before they knew that Dorsett would be available at #2? Or was it public knowledge that the Bucs were going to take Ricky Bell at #1?
John McKay said publicly over and over that he was going to take Ricky Bell with the first draft choice.
Re: Dorsett picked up on the cheap
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:10 am
by BD Sullivan
SixtiesFan wrote:Bryan wrote:I think Bud Grant got fined by Pete Rozelle for saying that the Cowboys were "in bed" with the Seahawks.
Did the Cowboys make the deal before they knew that Dorsett would be available at #2? Or was it public knowledge that the Bucs were going to take Ricky Bell at #1?
John McKay said publicly over and over that he was going to take Ricky Bell with the first draft choice.
Another example of a college coach who moves on to the pros and blindly drafts one of his former top recruits. Nearly 30 years later, Butch Davis would do this when he stupidly gave up a second round pick from the talent-challenged Browns to Detroit--so that he could move up ONE spot in the first round and draft Kellen Winslow, Jr., who wasn't worth the effort.
Even before McKay, Paul Brown was famous for continually drafting Ohio State players, after having been head coach there in the early 40's.
Re: Dorsett picked up on the cheap
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:59 am
by Gary Najman
These are the players drafted by Seattle with the Dorsett picks:
T Steve August (started at RT from 1978 through the first half iof1984, finished his career with Pittsburgh that year).
G Tom Lynch (started at LG from 1977 through the first half of 1980, then played four years as a backup with Buffalo).
LB Terry Beeson (started at MLB from 1977-1981, finished his career with San Francisco the next year).
LB Pete Cronan (was a backup and special teams player his entire career, he moved to Washington in 1981 and stayed there until 1985).
Of course, most (if not all) would argue that the Seahawks got the worst part of the deal.
Re: Dorsett picked up on the cheap
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:29 pm
by Gary Najman
By the way, Val Belcher went on to play with the Ottawa Rough Riders and was a three-time CFL All-Star from 1980-1982. He stayed in Canada after his playing days and passed away a few years ago.
Re: Dorsett picked up on the cheap
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:08 pm
by ChaseStuart
BD Sullivan wrote:SixtiesFan wrote:Bryan wrote:I think Bud Grant got fined by Pete Rozelle for saying that the Cowboys were "in bed" with the Seahawks.
Did the Cowboys make the deal before they knew that Dorsett would be available at #2? Or was it public knowledge that the Bucs were going to take Ricky Bell at #1?
John McKay said publicly over and over that he was going to take Ricky Bell with the first draft choice.
Another example of a college coach who moves on to the pros and blindly drafts one of his former top recruits. Nearly 30 years later, Butch Davis would do this when he stupidly gave up a second round pick from the talent-challenged Browns to Detroit--so that he could move up ONE spot in the first round and draft Kellen Winslow, Jr., who wasn't worth the effort.
Even before McKay, Paul Brown was famous for continually drafting Ohio State players, after having been head coach there in the early 40's.
Pete Carroll knew what he was doing taking Earl Thomas over Taylor Mays.