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Re: Super Bowl I rebroadcast on NFL Network

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:30 am
by Rupert Patrick
Are they going to replay the Super Bowl I rebroadcast that aired last night? The cable was up and down much of the day yesterday because of the snowstorm (we got about 6 inches with a half inch of ice underneath, which is a lot in an area that doesn't have a lot of rock salt and plows to clear things when it snows) and I had my DVR set but it didn't record it.

Re: Super Bowl I rebroadcast on NFL Network

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:21 pm
by rhickok1109
Reaser wrote:
Bob Gill wrote:As for the footage itself, it looked to me line the offensive linemen were much higher off the ground in their stances ...

Jim Taylor looked pretty good running the ball -- more agile than I remembered. And he was well past his prime (1960-64) by 1966, so much so that the Packers let him go to the Saints a year later.
I think watching the line play was most fascinating. The LB's also, especially Bell.

Taylor even had good runs when the legendary Packers OL'men didn't give him the greatest blocking (in their defense, KC's DL and again, Bell ... )

Jim Taylor is a longtime favorite of mine, if I can go slightly off topic here. By the early 90's, when I was a kid, when I talked about my favorite football players (after listing all the Seahawks, of course) I would say Deion Sanders (my favorite player) then I would say Jim Taylor and Jack Lambert. Now, my parents were awesome and ordered me a ton of NFL Films VHS's, and the MNF VHS's and SI VHS's, etc and I re-watched those over and over but really I was seeing Taylor and Lambert (and the "Holy Roller" clip and "The Sea of Hands" clip, etc) over and over on TV as a kid.

Things like the 1980 Browns NFL Films, I didn't even have that on VHS (do now), but I knew it by heart and could recall the entire program by the time I was 10 because I had seen it so many times on TV. Or 1987 with the cheesy "Road to the Super Bowl" song that for some reason I thought was amazing as a kid ("if you hit, that road with all your soul" ha!) knew the entire program and I didn't have a copy of that either (do now), it just was replayed on TV so many times that I knew it. Just like Packers NFL Films programming, where I thought Jim Taylor was amazing and loved how he ran the ball and I knew all the Lambert clips, the Browns, throwing down Cliff Harris, etc ... It was all just on TV and I saw it all multiple times a year every year growing up.

It's crazy to me that now, with a million channels, that kids don't see these things growing up anymore. They should be seeing the '96 Jags team HL film (a personal favorite of mine) 10 times a year while they're watching one of the million ESPN's or while watching NFLN, they should have seen the "Greatest Games" of the "Tuck Rule" so many times by now that they can recall the entire program start to finish, they should know Emmitt Smith's run against the Falcons, Barry Sanders against the Pats, those images should be burned in their memory. They aren't, because they are never shown. It's sad.
Taylor was a force. Since you're a fan, I'll share a story which you may already have heard.

During an exhibition game in Lombardi's first year (Taylor's second), Taylor broke free on the weakside sweep and was headed for a TD, with a safety chasing him at an angle. Instead of going straight for the goal-line, Taylor slowed a little, turned, and and ran over the safety man, but he stumbled and went down about a yard short of the TD.

When Lombardi was showing the film to the offense, he kept playing that sequence over and over. Finally he stopped the projector, turned on the lights, walked over to Taylor and asked, "You see what you did there?"

Taylor grinned and said, "Yeah, Coach, I really stung that son-of-a-bitch, didn't I?"

Re: Super Bowl I rebroadcast on NFL Network

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:46 pm
by Reaser
SixtiesFan wrote:Have you ever seen a clip of the TD Jim Taylor scored to win the 1966 season opener against the Browns? The Packers trailed 20-14 late in the game and had the ball 4th and goal on the Browns 9 yard line. Starr threw Taylor a pass in the right flat with no blockers in front of him and three Browns. Taylor got by all three and scored to give the Packers a 21-20 victory. It's in the Packers 1966 highlight film.
Yup! It's excellent. Easily gets by Fichtner, runs through Barnes attempted tackle and doesn't get his legs taken out by Howell until he's already in the endzone.
rhickok1109 wrote:During an exhibition game in Lombardi's first year (Taylor's second), Taylor broke free on the weakside sweep and was headed for a TD, with a safety chasing him at an angle. Instead of going straight for the goal-line, Taylor slowed a little, turned, and and ran over the safety man, but he stumbled and went down about a yard short of the TD.

When Lombardi was showing the film to the offense, he kept playing that sequence over and over. Finally he stopped the projector, turned on the lights, walked over to Taylor and asked, "You see what you did there?"

Taylor grinned and said, "Yeah, Coach, I really stung that son-of-a-bitch, didn't I?"
Ha! Classic.

Re: Super Bowl I rebroadcast on NFL Network

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:33 pm
by SixtiesFan
Reaser wrote:
SixtiesFan wrote:Have you ever seen a clip of the TD Jim Taylor scored to win the 1966 season opener against the Browns? The Packers trailed 20-14 late in the game and had the ball 4th and goal on the Browns 9 yard line. Starr threw Taylor a pass in the right flat with no blockers in front of him and three Browns. Taylor got by all three and scored to give the Packers a 21-20 victory. It's in the Packers 1966 highlight film.
Yup! It's excellent. Easily gets by Fichtner, runs through Barnes attempted tackle and doesn't get his legs taken out by Howell until he's already in the endzone.
rhickok1109 wrote:During an exhibition game in Lombardi's first year (Taylor's second), Taylor broke free on the weakside sweep and was headed for a TD, with a safety chasing him at an angle. Instead of going straight for the goal-line, Taylor slowed a little, turned, and and ran over the safety man, but he stumbled and went down about a yard short of the TD.

When Lombardi was showing the film to the offense, he kept playing that sequence over and over. Finally he stopped the projector, turned on the lights, walked over to Taylor and asked, "You see what you did there?"

Taylor grinned and said, "Yeah, Coach, I really stung that son-of-a-bitch, didn't I?"
Ha! Classic.
When interviewed during his best years, Jim Taylor would say "You have to sting 'em." It was sort of his motto.

Re: Super Bowl I rebroadcast on NFL Network

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:52 pm
by Reaser
SixtiesFan wrote:When interviewed during his best years, Jim Taylor would say "You have to sting 'em." It was sort of his motto.
It's not about on the field but I love the NFL Films clip when he's talking about Hornung being a leader then (caused by off-screen, "quit laughing") starts laughing and mentions "the broads", ha.

edit to add: Also like the clip of him running the ball in practice with GB. Just looks tough and like a hard, physical runner.

Re: Super Bowl I rebroadcast on NFL Network

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:24 am
by nicefellow31
Reaser wrote:
Bob Gill wrote:As for the footage itself, it looked to me line the offensive linemen were much higher off the ground in their stances ...

. Or 1987 with the cheesy "Road to the Super Bowl" song that for some reason I thought was amazing as a kid ("if you hit, that road with all your soul" ha!) knew the entire program and I didn't have a copy of that either (do now), it just was replayed on TV so many times that I knew it.
I am a Redskins fan and have watched that video many times, but that song, sung by Richie Havens I believe, makes me cringe every time I hear it. Cheesy is an apt description.

Re: Super Bowl I rebroadcast on NFL Network

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:24 pm
by Reaser
nicefellow31 wrote:I am a Redskins fan and have watched that video many times, but that song, sung by Richie Havens I believe, makes me cringe every time I hear it. Cheesy is an apt description.
Yes, no idea why as a kid that I thought it was great, but very different take as an adult.

Best (as in cheesiest) part? Where the song is timed with Rulon Jones yelling, ha!

Re: Super Bowl I rebroadcast on NFL Network

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:57 pm
by NFL500
As pleased as I was to see this rebroadcast presented without a lot of talking heads or other distractions, I was frustrated that all of the game action shown was strictly NFL Films material, even though the NFL Network had shown broadcast footage in its on-air promos for the program, including Bart Starr's first touchdown pass to Max McGee and the opening kickoff. In the ads, you see it as CBS-TV viewers did back in 1967, with Ray Scott saying: We're under way from the Super Bowl." But the program has the NFL Films version, with Jim Simpson of NBC Radio saying: "The Super Bowl is under way."

I must admit it does please me to learn that right from the start of the game, it was being referred to as the Super Bowl, no matter what its official name may have been for the first couple of years.

While I appreciate the NFL's efforts in reconstructing the first Super Bowl, I hope that come the 50th anniversary of the game next year, the NFL will have reached a deal allowing the airing of the Paley videotape and combine that material with whatever other television network footage it has found to truly recreate an audio-visual presentation of that historic game.

Re: Super Bowl I rebroadcast on NFL Network

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:39 am
by BD Sullivan
Fascinating background on the tape of SB I that the NFL won't cough up money for, and the guy who owns it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/03/sport ... .html?_r=2

Re: Super Bowl I rebroadcast on NFL Network

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:47 am
by mwald
BD Sullivan wrote:Fascinating background on the tape of SB I that the NFL won't cough up money for, and the guy who owns it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/03/sport ... .html?_r=2
The state of the tape (missing half the third quarter, missing snippets coming back from commercials, etc) certainly takes a bit of the shine off this artifact. Still, the NFL's approach to this whole thing is puzzling at best and disappointing at worst. It's like they are more concerned with punishing this guy for having the tape than they are promoting their own history.