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Re: Senior Nominees for Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:03 pm
by BD Sullivan
Ken Crippen wrote:
Saban wrote: Thanks Ken. I hope that Speedie's playing four years in the All-America Conference is not held against him.
It will for some.
Well, Paul Brown is no longer around to badmouth him. :roll:

Re: Senior Nominees for Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:18 pm
by Jeremy Crowhurst
Ken Crippen wrote:
Saban wrote:I hope that Speedie's playing four years in the All-America Conference is not held against him.
It will for some.
At this point I'd think the thing working against him is that he has previously been both a regular (1970, 1972) and a senior candidate (1983) and didn't get in. So he may be worthy, but stuck in that purgatory of always having other guys who are more worthy.

Re: Senior Nominees for Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:05 pm
by Ken Crippen
Jeremy Crowhurst wrote:
Ken Crippen wrote:
Saban wrote:I hope that Speedie's playing four years in the All-America Conference is not held against him.
It will for some.
At this point I'd think the thing working against him is that he has previously been both a regular (1970, 1972) and a senior candidate (1983) and didn't get in. So he may be worthy, but stuck in that purgatory of always having other guys who are more worthy.
Claude Humphrey was a three-time finalist before being inducted. However, I do see your point.

Re: Senior Nominees for Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:29 pm
by JuggernautJ
Ken Crippen wrote:
Saban wrote:
Ken Crippen wrote:
Speedie is one of the PFRA candidates (Wistert, Dilweg and Slater are the others). However, his chances are slim.

The one thing that worked against him was career length. However, since Dick Stanfel was put up (twice, I believe), that argument does not carry much water if made by a selector. Speedie played in more games than Stanfel. So, if Stanfel's career is long enough and worthy of consideration, so is Speedie's.

Dick Stanfel: 74 Games
Mac Speedie: 86 Games

Wistert and Dilweg have the best shot at induction, followed by Slater. All three face an uphill battle.

Thanks Ken. I hope that Speedie's playing four years in the All-America Conference is not held against him.
It will for some.
I don't know what's sadder...
The fact that some will count Speedie's AAFC contributions against him or that none will count his AAFC contributions in his favor.

Re: Senior Nominees for Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:57 am
by Ken Crippen
JuggernautJ wrote:
I don't know what's sadder...
The fact that some will count Speedie's AAFC contributions against him or that none will count his AAFC contributions in his favor.
Unfortunately, there are still a lot of people who look at the AAFC as an inferior league.

Re: Senior Nominees for Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:04 pm
by JoeZagorski
My vote goes to Johnny Robinson and Drew Pearson.

Re: Senior Nominees for Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:36 pm
by NWebster
Chuck Howley and Del Shofner.

Though I'd be happy (in no particular order) with any of:
Dub
Speedier
Gradishar
Emerson
Karras
Kenny Anderson
Erich Barnes
Dilweg
etc
etc

Re: Senior Nominees for Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:41 am
by Saban1
NWebster wrote:Chuck Howley and Del Shofner.

Though I'd be happy (in no particular order) with any of:
Dub
Speedier
Gradishar
Emerson
Karras
Kenny Anderson
Erich Barnes
Dilweg
etc
etc

I have been watching some films of the Giants of the early 1960's lately, and that Barnes was really some player. What a secondary the Giants had with Erich Barnes, Dick Lynch, and Jimmy Patton.

Re: Senior Nominees for Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:47 pm
by DukeSlater
Yes, Isiah Robertson caused Earl Campbell to fumble earlier in that game.