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TanksAndSpartans wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:07 am
50 was one of my favorite Super Bowls. I wouldn't take anything away from the Denver defense. They were great - especially Miller and Ware. Reminded me of the (NFC) defenses of the '80s.
A one dimensional team- all defense, no offense
They won so many lucky one score games. 2015 Broncos were basically 5 plays from 7-9
Brian wolf wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:59 pm
Thats funny ... I never said a damn thing about hating everything about the NFL. If I did, I wouldnt be watching or gambling on it. I didnt say it was completely rigged either, though I feel the officials, coaches and teams can affect outcomes. Hell, a team doesnt even get in trouble for not reporting injuries, which can affect all gambling. Am I a cynic, of course, but this game still entertains and enlightens me. There is no collision sport in the world like it, though boxing and wrestling carry their own dangers.
I made comments about what Buffalo Bills fans told me, I didnt say I agreed with them, though they made good points. Do I believe Cam Newton dogged it in a SB by not playing his best or putting it all out on the line for his teammates, you damn right I said it and believe it. I do watch games, which makes me qualified to comment on them, if others are not watching them, thats their problem ... I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, there is no disrespect on my part. Its a forum after all.
I was not referring to you as the guy who seems to hate everything about the NFL.
No sweat, JWL ... I know I can be annoying on here and I may have gotten defensive ... just going through football withdrawals, though I am watching playoff replays now. Still a much bigger fan of postseason than regular.
Brian wolf wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:45 pm
Bills fans I have talked to, felt Mahomes dogged this game. They felt he deliberately allowed the Eagles rush to get to him by scrambling around or having nervous feet from the pocket. They remembered what the Bucs had done to him as well in 2021, while killing the Bills defense in both years. It was only 10-12 fans I talked to but they had a point and stood by it. I felt the Chiefs were flat but seeing a quiet Kelce on the sidelines, you just really never know? Cam Newton has been spouting off about the Panthers players being a bunch of losers when he joined the team, but I truly felt he point shaved that Denver SB game.
So we are trying to say Mahomes was trying to get beat up in the game and then also purposefully lose the game? Maybe then Mahomes being in near tears at the end of the game was him trying really hard to get into the act he would have to do post game when talking to the media.
I don't know. I come here and read remarks. This guy hates everything about the NFL. Then this other guy thinks everything is rigged. Then the NFL-hater agrees with that guy about the rigging. Then we have people commenting who don't even watch the games. Reading the comments here are fascinating sometimes.
The comments have become less about actual football history and more about what happened yesterday, what’s going to happen tomorrow, and what if this would have happened.
Brian wolf wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:45 pm
As I mentioned on this thread during the SB broadcast, Barkley had a chance to stick it to Vegas on the prop bets by scoring the first TD of the game but with him not getting the ball, or scoring a TD the rest of the game for that matter ... Vegas cleaned up on same-game prop parlay bets and others, to the record tune of 22.1 million.
Lets hope whoever won on the Birds avoided these bets but its doubtful.
Bills fans I have talked to, felt Mahomes dogged this game. They felt he deliberately allowed the Eagles rush to get to him by scrambling around or having nervous feet from the pocket. They remembered what the Bucs had done to him as well in 2021, while killing the Bills defense in both years. It was only 10-12 fans I talked to but they had a point and stood by it. I felt the Chiefs were flat but seeing a quiet Kelce on the sidelines, you just really never know? Cam Newton has been spouting off about the Panthers players being a bunch of losers when he joined the team, but I truly felt he point shaved that Denver SB game.
I don't know what Bills fans you're talking to. Nobody I know feels that Mahomes dogged the game... and I live in Buffalo
Haha ... both of them after this game. Of course I only talked to 12 of them. Since conace21 seems too know them all across the globe, I will sleep better at night ...