Do the Chiefs deserve to be considered a dynasty

[7DnBrnc53]

The Lakers get swept in the NBA Finals in both '83 and also '89. I think everyone sees 'Showtime' as a...Dynasty.

The Lakers ended up winning five titles, so they were a true dynasty. The Chiefs are still a soft dynasty as yet.

[SeahawkFever]

The Lakers get swept in the NBA Finals in both '83 and also '89. I think everyone sees 'Showtime' as a...Dynasty.

The Lakers ended up winning five titles, so they were a true dynasty. The Chiefs are still a soft dynasty as yet.

How do you define a "soft" dynasty?

[Brian wolf]

A conference championship is always special and should be celebrated more but isnt if a team loses the SB. I think a player or coach would rather lose in the conference championship though, than the SB. The SB is remembered much more.

Even though Joe Montana with the 49ers team, never lost a SB, he lost conference championship games, that could have been SB losses had his teams won those games. Had the 49ers won against the Redskins in the 1983/84 game, I feel the team would have lost against the Raiders in the SB without Dwight Clark. With Joe getting hurt in the loss to the Giants in 1990/91, many people feel the Bills might have beaten the 49ers with Steve Young, but I am not so sure about that.

Sorry 7D, but you dont win 3 SBs and 5 AFC championships being soft ... Soft, is the current Dolphins team that let go of Fangio!

[Reaser]

3 in 5 (or less) is the starting point and they did that -- won 3 championships in a 5-season span.

[JameisBrownston]

Yes, they are undeniably a dynasty. I don't know why that needs to be discussed, they've done as much as any dynasty ever if you count the Patriots as two. I also think this is the end for them, though.

[Jay Z]

Considering the Chiefs' losses in two Super Bowls raises the question regarding the team as a dynasty, I have a question: Would you prefer to see your team 1) Win the AFC or NFC championship and then lose the Super Bowl or 2) Not win the conference championship and suffer a Super Bowl loss?

There's actually a bit of a downer effect on Super Bowl losses. Super Bowl winners have made at least the conference championship game the next year 23 times. NFC Conference Championship losers also make at least conference championship the next year 23 times. AFC Championship losers make the conference championship the next year 18 times. Super Bowl losers only make the conference championship the next year 15 times. It's also the least likely to win the SB the next year at 3, compared to 10 repeat champions and 13 from the combined losers of the championship games.

[74_75_78_79_]

The Lakers get swept in the NBA Finals in both '83 and also '89. I think everyone sees 'Showtime' as a...Dynasty.

The Lakers ended up winning five titles, so they were a true dynasty. The Chiefs are still a soft dynasty as yet.

I actually thought a bit of that after posting. But here's the thing...even after that sweep to the Sixers who, in my mind, are the best/deepest (Bobby Jones 6th-man) one-year NBA team of All-Time, the Lakers then lose another Final(ly, Magic & Bird meet) to the Celtics. Yet even after that, I felt and retroactively feel that everyone else still saw them as a Dynasty. And, mind you, Titles #3, #4, and #5 were still yet to be won (just 2-2 so far)! Yes, just two so far does not make a Dynasty with me, but perhaps it being...the Lakers, and me just being a kid, may have psychologically 'forged' them as being one thus far in me and my peers' minds which they, of course, ended up justifying with the rest of their decade's work! And, steering toward your point, that second sweep was at the very end after winning their 5th.

Mahomes Magic, Magic Johnson...really not much a difference cross-sports, huh?

[Brian wolf]

Though being an obvious dynasty, the Chiefs--despite team denials--have benefitted from disparity in penalties from the officials, whether regular or postseason.

Though I won a grand from the 2019/20 SB, it was obvious Nick Bosa was getting held throughout the game. In fact they won all three of their SBs without offensive holding being called. In both losses, holding was called and according to @Mike Catalana on X (shown on the Bleacher Report and Brian Tuohy, thefixisin.net) just in the last 11 postseason games alone--before this SB-- going back to 2021, not counting postseason games from 2018, the Chiefs were called for 36 penalties for 319 yards, while their opponents were called for 66 penalties for 541 yards. Of course, home cooking in home playoff games, accounts for this, but the Chiefs have also played five other postseason games that were away, or neutral sites.

It probably hurt the Bills the most, who couldnt get a pass rush in the 2020 and 2024 AFC championship games in KC, while the Bucs and Eagles teed off in the SB. Of course, a slick, mismanaged field against the Eagles in the 2022/23 SB, neutralized a pass rush that had over 70 sacks that season. Imagine if a non-traded Haason Riddick for the Eagles had played in this current SB?

[JWL]

Imagine if a non-traded Haason Riddick for the Eagles had played in this current SB?

I am not sure how much, if at all, Reddick would have helped. He was not effective with the Jets and if he played for the Eagles this season that would have meant less playing time for players who played well for the Eagles.

[Brian wolf]

JWL ... I agree. He screwed up wanting to leave the team.