Super Bowl 59 Talk

[CSKreager]

this Chiefs team holds back plays and could have a gameplan, they can exploit against the young Eagle's secondary. The Eagles pass rush has to expose the tackles for the Chiefs or the receivers could get open all day. The Eagles HAVE to COVER Kelce but watch for his PICK plays as well, says Cap'n Obvious!
... haha

KC's recievers are overrated

Hopkins is washed
Hollywood hasn't been good in years
Worthy is basically all speed no route

The Chiefs roster from top to bottom would be a 9-10 loss roster without #15 bailing the team out

What do you think of their defense?

They've played an easy schedule and have no pass rush outside of Jones.

Their 'genius' of a defensive coordinator was terrible with the Saints/Rams

[CSKreager]

I have Philly winning 45-17

The Chiefs have played with fire all year and they are about to get burned

[rhickok1109]

KC's recievers are overrated

Hopkins is washed
Hollywood hasn't been good in years
Worthy is basically all speed no route

The Chiefs roster from top to bottom would be a 9-10 loss roster without #15 bailing the team out

What do you think of their defense?

They've played an easy schedule and have no pass rush outside of Jones.

“Easy schedule”? Since this is the Pro Football Researchers Association and not the Pro Football Makers of Baseless Assertions Association, let’s do a little bit of research to investigate that claim.
Sure enough, the Chiefs’ opponents were a combined 141-148. Oh, wait a minute—they were 2-15 against the Chiefs, so they were a little above .500 (139-133) against the rest of the NFL. Furthermore, they were 8-2 against winning teams and 7-2 against playoff teams. Actually one of those losses was the 38-0 blowout by the Broncos in the final game, when the Chiefs rested most of their starters, so they were 8-1 against winning teams and 7-1 against playoff teams in games that counted.
Let’s look specifically at how their defense performed. In 15 of their 17 games, the Chiefs held the opponent below their season scoring average. For example, in their opening win, they held the Ravens to 20 points, 10.5 below their season average of 30.5.
If you add up all the season averages, their opponents would have been expected to score 398 points, but the Chiefs gave up only 326. If, again, you ignore that final game against Denver, rivals would have been expected to score 373 points, but the Chiefs gave up only 288.
BTW, Karlaftis and Wharton both had more sacks than Jones.

[JohnR]

I'm just thinking KC's luck has to run out at SOME point. Look, the breaks go both ways over time. Maybe this SB is the one where the punt bounces off
of Nikko's leg? Maybe Sunday Travis is the one who drops the well drawn up 2 pt conversion? (A man can dream, can't he?) Or the 4th down spot of the ball is reviewed...and upheld. First down Philly! I hope it's a good game. I won't be making the same mistake I did last year and use low sodium beans in my 6 layer dip. Read the label, John.

[SeahawkFever]

What do you think of their defense?

They've played an easy schedule and have no pass rush outside of Jones.

“Easy schedule”? Since this is the Pro Football Researchers Association and not the Pro Football Makers of Baseless Assertions Association, let’s do a little bit of research to investigate that claim.
Sure enough, the Chiefs’ opponents were a combined 141-148. Oh, wait a minute—they were 2-15 against the Chiefs, so they were a little above .500 (139-133) against the rest of the NFL. Furthermore, they were 8-2 against winning teams and 7-2 against playoff teams. Actually one of those losses was the 38-0 blowout by the Broncos in the final game, when the Chiefs rested most of their starters, so they were 8-1 against winning teams and 7-1 against playoff teams in games that counted.
Let’s look specifically at how their defense performed. In 15 of their 17 games, the Chiefs held the opponent below their season scoring average. For example, in their opening win, they held the Ravens to 20 points, 10.5 below their season average of 30.5.
If you add up all the season averages, their opponents would have been expected to score 398 points, but the Chiefs gave up only 326. If, again, you ignore that final game against Denver, rivals would have been expected to score 373 points, but the Chiefs gave up only 288.
BTW, Karlaftis and Wharton both had more sacks than Jones.

I looked back at the team advanced metrics I posted at the end of the regular season, and Kansas City’s schedule ranks 20th by opposing win percentage, and 12th by opposing score% differential. So somewhere in the middle.

Philly by contrast has the third easiest schedule both by opposing win percentage (.453), and opposing score% differential.

From someone who’s second favorite team is Philadelphia, if either one is to be marked down for playing an easier schedule (at least based on the regular season performance of their respective opponents there), it’s the Eagles.

[GameBeforeTheMoney]

While everybody wants to talk about Mahomes, KC has quietly built one of the NFL's best defenses. They're 4th in scoring defense, giving up only 19.2 points per game.

Absolutely! And I've always pointed out that KC's front 7 has been deciding their Super Bowls in many ways as much as Mahomes. My biggest concern for KC's D is not having Frank Clark or Willie Gay anymore. Those guys both made a lot of plays when they won.

And to me, that's what makes this game so tough to predict, because I don't think their front 7 is as good. It really depends on them being able to contain Barkley - if they do and KC keeps it close, it's really difficult to pick against the Mahomes magic. But if they don't and the Eagles can run run run, then I think the Eagles will win by 10+. I think it's going to go one of those two ways but this is one of those rare years when I just really can't say for sure one way or another.

I'm hoping the Packers keep their record so maybe picking the Eagles is wishful thinking. But overall I do think KC isn't quite as good as they were the first time around and Philadelphia is better. But when it comes down to Mahomes vs Hurts - and if KC forces Hurts to throw like they did Allen, I really don't like the Eagles chances in that situation if the Eagles line doesn't outplay KC's defense and forces Hurts to try to win solely with his passing and reading skills. Not that Hurts isn't good, it's just in a Super Bowl against a champion, that really would be tough.

[Brian wolf]

Bryan Cook in the Chiefs secondary is the weak link. If the Eagles can exploit him, they have a great chance. Like I said two years ago when these teams met, tight ends Kelce and Goedert could have big games again, but the Birds have to worry about Noah Gray as well. I predict 18 catches by this trio in the SB.

With former Eagle, Baughan, not getting elected and former Chief, Jared Allen getting elected, an omen for a Chiefs victory? Lets hope not! Time for another team with its original QB, to become champion.

[RichardBak]

Just run the damn ball.

Philadelphia by a FG, say something like Eagles 28, KC 25.

Barkley MVP.

[Brian wolf]

Figures on SB day, we will hear news on the Jets moving on from Rodgers. Where will he go? Would the Giants or Vikings take a chance? Will he retire? Once he goes, the Jets will probably dump Adams as well. Could he move with Rodgers?

I dunno, I think the Jets should have given him another year but with new coaching and management and Rodgers taking shots at Johnson, his time there will end.

[RichardBak]

Maybe his buddy will make him Admiral of the Gulf of America. Nice gig, if he doesn't mind getting paid in bitcoin.