I am ambivalent on him, if he gets in fine, if not, fine...he's a bubble-type
guy. He made All-AFL in 1969, but lots of AFL-All-Star games. Pro Bowls, All-AFC type seasons
Read both good and middle of the road stuff on him, watching him he was fine, nothing
you could say stands out, but nothing bad--I rate him with Charlie Cowan in terms of what
he looked like when he plays, big mobile, more of a dancing bear than a mauler like Boomer
Brown.
He had a few years where Detroit News, Football News and Dr Z kind of "upped him" on minor
All-pro teams, but basically a 1-time All=Pro with a few 2nd team All-Pro/AFL seasons