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A Hall of Fame Within the Hall of Fame?

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 2:15 pm
by JohnTurney
This guy


It’s time for a Hall of Fame within the Hall of Fame
Posted by Mike Florio on February 4, 2023, 9:30 AM EST

Deion Sanders was right. There needs to be a Hall of Fame within the Hall of Fame.

Every year, up to eight new members join the supposed immortals in Canton. It feels more like the filling of a quota than the bestowing of the highest possible honor in the sport. . . . That universe will be smaller if the number of new Hall of Famers was limited. . . .The goal is to get as many people as possible to come to town for that weekend. That’s why they almost always induct the highest number of available candidates . . . .


See full article here
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... l-of-fame/

Re: A Hall of Fame Within the Hall of Fame?

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 2:57 pm
by Brian wolf
My feeling is, the ones who are voted first ballot are the best of the best but there are a number of elite players that werent first ballot ... So it goes

Re: A Hall of Fame Within the Hall of Fame?

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:06 pm
by JohnTurney
Brian wolf wrote:My feeling is, the ones who are voted first ballot are the best of the best but there are a number of elite players that werent first ballot ... So it goes
The "elite" are the one that get picked on Top 100 lists, or all-time teams...or yeah, 1st ballots

there are exceptions to that, IMO, Slater, not 1st ballot worthy, some of the recent QBs, too. Sapp, IMO, dubious, esp when up against Strahan. Jason Taylor dubiosu
but there is disagreement in all that---people may think my list is wrong...but some short of levels of the HoF is wrong-headed, IMO

Re: A Hall of Fame Within the Hall of Fame?

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:34 pm
by Jay Z
This is just this small hall crap that I hate in baseball.

Opinions on how big Halls Of Fame should be are just that. Opinions. They are completely subjective and unsolvable. Draw the line wherever you want to draw it and I can debate with you whether someone should go in or not. I can't argue where the line should be drawn.

The HOFs are businesses and they have to induct a certain number of players each year to stay in business.

Re: A Hall of Fame Within the Hall of Fame?

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:57 pm
by ChrisBabcock
The dozens of comments beneath Florio's article are actually better than his article itself. :roll:

Re: A Hall of Fame Within the Hall of Fame?

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:23 pm
by JohnTurney
ChrisBabcock wrote:The dozens of comments beneath Florio's article are actually better than his article itself. :roll:
My favorite
MNGoon says:
February 4, 2023 at 10:05 am
More fake awards for the divas.

Re: A Hall of Fame Within the Hall of Fame?

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:48 pm
by rewing84
florio is probably begging people to read his article

Re: A Hall of Fame Within the Hall of Fame?

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:29 pm
by Bryan
Round like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning on an ever spinning reel


If you have to be informed who the "all time greats" are, then are they really "all time greats"?

The only aspect of "Hall within a Hall" would be if the players had their own section, the coaches (and assistants) had their own voting process and section, the contributors/owners had their own voting process and section. Lumping everyone together is kind of strange.

On a somewhat related note, at what point in time did Mike Florio become 'credible'? He's always been a bit looney to me. He has a weekly spot on my morning sports radio listening, and he has yet to cite fact or historical reference in relation to any of his opinions. I just don't know why he is around, or how he came to be considered an NFL expert.

Re: A Hall of Fame Within the Hall of Fame?

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:08 pm
by RichardBak
Will this Hall-within-a-Hall have waiting lists for the hoi polloi to visit?

Re: A Hall of Fame Within the Hall of Fame?

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:37 pm
by JeffreyMiller
Too much revisionism involved in such an undertaking. There are several players in who I think don't belong but my opinion is not worth as much as a coach or player or general manager or beat reporter. I keep hearing how Wayne Millner doesn't belong, but he was selected by people who actually saw him play, or played against him at some point. Those people thought he belonged. So now we got Primetime, who most of us here would say is credible. Is his opinion more valuable than those who voted in Millner? I don't think it's fair now to go back and say certain people don't belong, or that we need a seperate hall for the truly greats. The hall is what it is, and I don't believe any modern day voter's opinion is any more valid than, say, Paul Zimmerman or Larry Felser or George Halas' ...