Professional Football Researchers Association Forum

Yes. One of the most obvious picks of the earlier era. When Hutson reset what good receiving stats look like Benton was the only comparable receiver until the talented receiver classes of the late 1940s. Whether you agree with it or not there's usually a clear reason a candidate wasn't inducted. Her...

@Brian Wolf, that looks like a good list. My personal preference is that the HOVG prioritize early players though, which hasn't happened, because, well, certainly no one else will - there's discussion of modern players on pretty much every football board. @Zero26 - thanks for the reply - another go...

Smith leads pre Hutson WR's(who played more than 2 seasons) in receiving yards per game. Tinsley overshadowed him for sure with his 2 incredible seasons that got him on the all decade team. While I would have otherwise given that spot to Joe Carter it might have went to Bill Smith(you put 2 on your...

@Zero26. Really good post, yeah I can't speak too much to Presnell because he's one of my favorite players - I'm biased. I feel had he taken an NFL offer rather than the Ironton offer and gone to a team that would have featured him, it would be a different story. A lot of ifs and buts though. We ha...

Just wanted to bump this to see if @Zero26 or anyone had some thoughts to add about Price. Was pleasantly surprised to see him mentioned in the other thread: https://www.profootballresearchers.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5438&start=20&sid=04024a93cb46d3cf9165e092a54363b1 I think he sh...

Best player not in HOVG IMO is Alex Webster who I believe should be in the HOF. He had more rushing yards than his HOF teammate Frank Gifford and averaged more yards from scrimmage as well(77.2). He also averaged more rushing yards than McElhenny averaged more of everything than Ollie Matson. While...

Now this is getting into the lack of accolades thing. Webster only getting elected to 2 pro bowls doesn't mean those decisions or any other accolades were right. We hope they are but we can see the stats and judge that ourselves. Arnett went to 5 pro bowls but his stats were worse in every non spec...

Probably not. If he had just a few more elite seasons he'd end up with very good career numbers but what matters is how those numbers and accolades compare to others and the 2010s has even more depth at WR than the 2000s did. In just his draft class alone there are 4 WR's with more career receiving ...

You make it sound like head coaches in the 1950's stood in front of their teams and ask "Hey, does anyone want to return punts?" I think that undersells the impact of the return game in that decade. Before you had punters going for hang time, special teams coaches, and kicking specialists...

I see a lot of the 86 Dolphins in them. Prodigial QB with a great coach who'd had success the previous few years with a great offense and good enough defense. Wheels fall off on the defense and they struggle. Those Dolphins led the league in points(these Chiefs are 5th) but they allowed the 3rd most...