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by JohnTurney
Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:22 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: "Deacon" on back of Deacon Jones's jersey
Replies: 3
Views: 1091

"Deacon" on back of Deacon Jones's jersey

Had a Twitter exchange was conace21 (Adam C) about that 1972 season and I'd forgotten some details and went down the wormhole of seeing when he switched from "Deacon" to "D.Jones". Turns out it was week 10, vs Chiefs at Arrowhead. He wore "D. Jones" the final four weeks...
by JohnTurney
Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:52 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: A ton of information in this article
Replies: 13
Views: 2224

Re: A ton of information in this article

Good point John I don't think there's really a right or wrong answer agree. We just don't know much about the thinking of the time ... Cliff gave us a lot of insight, but still ... a lot of questions. It's just interesting to me to wonder what happened. Now? I do think you're right, it's like --- h...
by JohnTurney
Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:22 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: A ton of information in this article
Replies: 13
Views: 2224

Re: A ton of information in this article

I'm thinking they cancel each other out Maybe now ... but I was thinking about then. I know it's hard to get into the heads of voters at the time -- it's possible they didn't think in terms of "too many Packers" or "too many Giants" that is more of a modern ethic, but that's a g...
by JohnTurney
Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:33 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Pre-1966 NFL Championship Game MVPs
Replies: 10
Views: 1397

Re: Pre-1966 NFL Championship Game MVPs

The way the Rams split snaps with QBs, hard for Van Brocklin to be 1951 MVP --
Fears caught GW pass---but just 4 catches on the day but would prob. have to go to him. Browns
held passing of Rams in check until that 73-yarder for the TD.
by JohnTurney
Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:01 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: A ton of information in this article
Replies: 13
Views: 2224

Re: A ton of information in this article

A ton of information in this article about the early voting process for the Hall of Fame. The unanimous thing always was curious --- Bob Oates told me that is how "they wanted it" early on ... but Don Smith once said it was engineered, that once the group was decided on those who objected...
by JohnTurney
Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:57 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: NFL broadcast preservation status
Replies: 15
Views: 1730

Re: NFL broadcast preservation status

the radio call is posted online ... pretty ez to find ... you can hear when "the rain seems to be coming down a little bit harder now" about 35 minutes into the broadcast ...
by JohnTurney
Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:52 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Pre-1966 NFL Championship Game MVPs
Replies: 10
Views: 1397

Re: Pre-1966 NFL Championship Game MVPs

Sammy Baugh in 1937, for sure, and probably 1942 also. Sid Luckman is a good bet for 1943 and '46 -- maybe '41 too. Probably Bob Waterfield in 1945? Ken Strong in 1934, or maybe Ed Danowski. Otto Graham in 1950, and probably '54 or '55, if not both. agree with all those, except perhaps Waterfield. ...
by JohnTurney
Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:35 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Pre-1966 NFL Championship Game MVPs
Replies: 10
Views: 1397

Re: Pre-1966 NFL Championship Game MVPs

sheajets wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:39 pm 1957 - Tobin Rote. Has to be
Steve Van Buren would be pretty non-controversial choices in 1948-49
by JohnTurney
Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:32 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Pre-1966 NFL Championship Game MVPs
Replies: 10
Views: 1397

Re: Pre-1966 NFL Championship Game MVPs

has anyone ever gone back and tried to figure out who MVPs would have been had there been an award for the games? here are the ones that were picked---but before that is an open field NFL 1965-Jim Taylor 1964-Gary Collins 1963-Larry Morris 1962-Ray Nitschke 1961-Paul Hornung 1960-Norm Van Brocklin ...
by JohnTurney
Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:25 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Lindy Infante offense - articles/description/etc.
Replies: 6
Views: 1171

Re: Lindy Infante offense - articles/description/etc.

Infante had some big ideas, but was bad at implementing them -- and he overlooked that the Packers simply didn't have the personnel to make them work. He had coached exactly one exhibition game when he publicly lamented how slow the players were to learn his system. He said the members of his Jacks...