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by GameBeforeTheMoney
Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:48 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Seniors
Replies: 81
Views: 17969

Re: Seniors

Someone else can totally prove me wrong but he was good, very good, but I have seen players without the so-called "alls" who IMO were dominant and players without the "numbers" who looked dominant ... not a ton of them but I have also seen guys with a good HOF resume--the number...
by GameBeforeTheMoney
Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:30 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Ki Aldrich and Larry Craig
Replies: 0
Views: 230

Ki Aldrich and Larry Craig

My sweet spot for knowledge is 50s - 80s but these two guys just happened upon my radar in recent months. The video I've gotten to see of Craig is impressive, as are the stories I've heard about Ki Aldrich.

Curious to know what people who know 30s/40s NFL think about these two for HOVG.
by GameBeforeTheMoney
Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:36 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: NFL MVP's who didn't deserve to win
Replies: 15
Views: 1037

Re: NFL MVP's who didn't deserve to win

I might get some flak for saying this but everybody who has won the MVP award has had a season in which they deserved to win. Now, can you make a case that maybe a player or two had a better season? Sure, but that's really almost every year. Guys who don't win, they have a lot of credentials also. Y...
by GameBeforeTheMoney
Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:15 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1974 Dallas Cowboys
Replies: 6
Views: 404

Re: 1974 Dallas Cowboys

They had 9 games decided by a touchdown or less in the 14-game regular season. They lost 5 of those games. They lost 6 total all year. The other loss was an 8-point loss to the Giants. So, close games were a factor. They started 1-4, so that was also a factor. 3 of those first four losses were by a ...
by GameBeforeTheMoney
Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:06 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1959 Packers
Replies: 5
Views: 501

Re: 1959 Packers

Yes, this sounds like an interesting series. And that scouting report book is excellent. I think it's called something like, "What they didn't tell us." It's not easy to find. I highly recommend John Eisenberg's "That First Season" which covers the 1959 Packers. Interesting team ...
by GameBeforeTheMoney
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:22 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Goal Posts
Replies: 17
Views: 2537

Re: Goal Posts

"For some odd reason the St. Louis Cardinals continued using the offset H-shaped posts in 1967. They waited until 1968 to switch to the sling-shot style. Does anyone know why?" Maybe - and this is just another guess - I think the Cardinals first used Busch Stadium rather than the old Sport...
by GameBeforeTheMoney
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:47 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Goal Posts
Replies: 17
Views: 2537

Re: Goal Posts

Might not have been a league wide rule because stadiums were multi-use, the NFL might not have had the resources to put it in league wide. Just a guess. The extension of the goal posts in 1966 was because of the 1965 Western Division Playoff between Green Bay and Baltimore. Jim Tunney was the offici...
by GameBeforeTheMoney
Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:33 am
Forum: Football Books
Topic: Wards of the League (new book about the 1952 Dallas Texans)
Replies: 5
Views: 4216

Re: Wards of the League (new book about the 1952 Dallas Texans)

I spoke with Mike a few times while he was shopping for a publisher. He shared with me a lot about the story and his research. This book is an important one for anybody serious about the history of the league, as this is really the only material that I'm aware of that draws information about the 195...
by GameBeforeTheMoney
Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:42 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: punting career of Bill Bradley
Replies: 4
Views: 4682

Re: punting career of Bill Bradley

I've gotten to chat with him some - and he told me that he made the Eagles as a punter. If you're aware of the Big 33 high school all-star game, he said he made the Texas team as a punter first, backup QB second - so, his punting goes all the way back to high school. He said he started playing DB in...
by GameBeforeTheMoney
Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:28 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Aaron Donald Retires
Replies: 9
Views: 5731

Re: Aaron Donald Retires

First ballot HOF. Alan Page and Joe Greene are the only two DT that I've seen that compare. I'm not quite old enough to remember Bob Lilly. But Donald is one of those guys who is one of the greats at his position. The Packers beat the Rams in the playoffs the year before the Rams won the Super Bowl....