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- Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:33 pm
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: 1960's Baltimore Colt defensive line
- Replies: 11
- Views: 11208
Re: 1960's Baltimore Colt defensive line
Good call Nick ... Smith had some excellent pass rush seasons and Bill Glass was very underrated for the Browns ... Did you feel Krouse was HOVG material or didnt play enough snaps ? He helped every team he was with, was part of three championship teams and was traded for good players and draft cap...
- Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:31 am
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: 1960's Baltimore Colt defensive line
- Replies: 11
- Views: 11208
Re: 1960's Baltimore Colt defensive line
Have watched everything I can of this era Colts and it makes me laugh to think people thought it novel that the 90's Cowboys had a rotational D Line as the Colts clearly deployed a rotation in the late 50's. The first series would be Gino, Art, Gene and Don. The second Would be Gino, Krouse, Gene an...
- Tue May 17, 2022 7:51 am
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: HOVG Candidacy of a pair of Denver Broncos defensive backs
- Replies: 5
- Views: 9837
Re: HOVG Candidacy of a pair of Denver Broncos defensive bac
Both were great. I felt Smith had a better career than Atwater but didnt get a SB win. I also feel Louis Wright should be in the HOF ... Agreed. Wright didn't have great hands, which helped contribute to low career interception totals, but he was fantastic in coverage. I would take him over Ken Ril...
- Thu May 12, 2022 11:40 am
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: School me on the 1963 Chicago Bears
- Replies: 16
- Views: 16395
Re: School me on the 1963 Chicago Bears
The Bears, prior to 1963, had been a good to very good team for most of the half past decade and along with a few key vets from the 1956 team had done well in the draft and Bill Wade helped stabilize the QB position. Factor in a few teams being down and George Allen and Halas being great coaches yo...
- Wed May 11, 2022 10:03 am
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: School me on the 1963 Chicago Bears
- Replies: 16
- Views: 16395
Re: School me on the 1963 Chicago Bears
Also a very good D benefitted from Turnover luck with a +27 turnover margin - a little like the 2009 New Orleans Saints - they were always a strong D but were more opportunistic than in the surrounding years and in the small sample size of 14 games having a handful of turnovers go your way can turn ...
- Mon May 09, 2022 2:22 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Two Pro Leagues in the same Season
- Replies: 15
- Views: 17534
Two Pro Leagues in the same Season
I hadn't realized that George Ratterman QB's for Montreal in 1951 between NFL stints with the Yanks. Who are other players who played in another professional league between NFL seasons WITHOUT MISSING an NFL season. So the Jim Kiick's and Lary Csonka's who skipped a season don't count, nor would Ros...
- Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:21 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Steelers 70s Championship Era: Most Underrated
- Replies: 26
- Views: 28250
Re: Steelers 70s Championship Era: Most Underrated
In terms of unsung hero on the team or NFL history in general? If it's NFL history in general, I'd say Terry Bradshaw. Unsung hero, I'd say Andy Russell. Not just a solid player, he's the veteran all those great future players like Lambert and Ham looked up to in their early years. No, not a ‘Rushm...
- Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:22 pm
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: Aaron Donald
- Replies: 29
- Views: 33774
Re: Aaron Donald
I think that of the Mt Rushmore positions that DT is probably the one where there's the most agreement. I think over half of informed observers would take Lilly, Olsen, Page and Greene in some order as My Rushmore. I cannot think of another position with the same consensus view. I think pre Donald t...
- Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:09 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Standouts who played other sports in college
- Replies: 31
- Views: 34404
Re: Standouts who played other sports in college
Don't think anyone has mentioned Doug Atkins HOF DE and excellent college Basketball player.
- Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:05 am
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Standouts who played other sports in college
- Replies: 31
- Views: 34404
Re: Standouts who played other sports in college
Of all the track stars that converted to the NFL, I would say Ollie Matson slightly edges out Bob Hayes, though most people might choose Hayes. Herschel Walker was great as well but didnt make any Olympic noise ... I've read what I could find on Ollie Matson and I don't think you can call him a tra...