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by Andy Piascik
Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:00 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: TOp 5 pre-HOF (1963 it opened) players not in HOF
Replies: 62
Views: 76795

Re: TOp 5 pre-HOF (1963 it opened) players not in HOF

It's unfortunate that in his Talk of Fame Network interview, John presented this as a "PFRA poll" or "PFRA vote" given that many of the people who post here, including regulars, don't belong to the PFRA. In addition, the PFRA has about 500 members. To me, it's beyond silly to pre...
by Andy Piascik
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:53 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: PRFA in the news …
Replies: 1
Views: 3385

Re: PRFA in the news …

It's unfortunate that John presented this as a "PFRA poll" or "PFRA vote" given that many of the people who post here, including regulars, don't belong to the PFRA. In addition, the PFRA has about 500 members. To me, it's beyond silly to present the votes of about ten people some...
by Andy Piascik
Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:07 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: AFL Players' HOF Worthiness
Replies: 24
Views: 28160

Re: AFL Players' HOF Worthiness

I don't think the reason the HOF electors have not elected Tyrer is because of his tragic death. It's because he murdered his wife.
by Andy Piascik
Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:14 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: TOp 5 pre-HOF (1963 it opened) players not in HOF
Replies: 62
Views: 76795

Re: TOp 5 pre-HOF (1963 it opened) players not in HOF

Ken, it's disappointing you mention some vague thing about the length of Barwegan's career and donate a whole paragraph to it without so much as mentioning the significant impact his time in the military had, the result of which was that he didn't play his first pro game until he was 25 years and 9 ...
by Andy Piascik
Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:24 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Congrats to the HOF Class of 2022
Replies: 32
Views: 39035

Re: Congrats to the HOF Class of 2022

Hey DukeMoron, great hearing from you again. Maybe you should learn to read. I specifically addressed the all-pro point and mentioned that Smith was named more times. I additionally pointed out that he was also all-conference more times than Boselli. If I'm typing too fast for you to keep up, don't ...
by Andy Piascik
Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:19 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Congrats to the HOF Class of 2022
Replies: 32
Views: 39035

Re: Congrats to the HOF Class of 2022

Probably that Smith wasn't that good when Schlereth did or didn't play against him in three regular season games/two regular season games/one regular season game/first quarter of a preseason game/sat in on game planning meetings.
by Andy Piascik
Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:17 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Bryant Young HoF
Replies: 114
Views: 109651

Re: Bryant Young HoF

Are you seriously denying there's a massive gulf between the experts of 2022 and the experts who evaluated Young at the time he was actually playing? It's all there in black and white in the historical record: Sporting News all-pro team selected by insider experts: Young was first team all-pro exact...
by Andy Piascik
Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:49 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Congrats to the HOF Class of 2022
Replies: 32
Views: 39035

Re: Congrats to the HOF Class of 2022

We’ve had numerous discussions here about the all-decade teams that you apparently missed where it was pointed out by many that, because a lot of players picked to all-decade were mistakes including some that are quite farcical, the all-decade teams are highly suspect. More on point, it’s ludicrous ...
by Andy Piascik
Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:25 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Bryant Young HoF
Replies: 114
Views: 109651

Re: Bryant Young HoF

Well, John, your reply notwithstanding, the massive gulf between the experts of today and those who actually evaluated Young when he was playing remains. If I have to choose between what Paul Zimmerman said at the time Young was actually playing and Mark Schlereth, who apparently lied about having e...
by Andy Piascik
Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:50 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: TOp 5 pre-HOF (1963 it opened) players not in HOF
Replies: 62
Views: 76795

Re: TOp 5 pre-HOF (1963 it opened) players not in HOF

It would be a crying shame if Lewellen or Emerson gets in and Barwegan doesn't.