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by bachslunch
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:28 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Worst player in HOVG? Best player not in?
Replies: 62
Views: 111311

Re: Worst player in HOVG? Best player not in?

Hard to choose one significant omission, but among them: Abe Woodson Lionel Taylor Earl Faison Houston Antwine Mike Stratton George Christensen John Niland Tommy Davis Mark Gastineau Mike Kenn Marvin Powell There aren’t many head-scratchers among those already in, though I could see Jack Kemp making...
by bachslunch
Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:35 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: What in the world was up with Johnny Lujack?
Replies: 56
Views: 136665

Re: What in the world was up with Johnny Lujack?

Was just looking at the Wikipedia article for Davey O’Brien, and it appears he had a really interesting and full life after football. He worked as an FBI agent for several years, then later in land development for H.L. Hunt, in the oil business, and as advisor to Lamar Hunt during the founding of th...
by bachslunch
Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:45 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Cam Newton
Replies: 37
Views: 88474

Re: Cam Newton

Cam Newton’s definitely not a HoFer as of now. He had one great year (2015j, four years that were varying degrees of very good (2011-2013 and 2018), three just okay years (2014 and 2016-2017), and one where he barely played (2019). By QB standards, his career is short, which doesn’t help. Not so sur...
by bachslunch
Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Herschel Walker
Replies: 5
Views: 16505

Re: Herschel Walker

JameisLoseston wrote:Slam dunk for HOVG? How highly do we value the USFL? It seemed to be a difference maker for Jim Kelly.
I think he's HoVG even without taking the USFL into account if you take his total all purpose yards into consideration. Which I think one should.
by bachslunch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:13 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: PFT reports that blue ribbon committee
Replies: 5
Views: 18169

Re: PFT reports that blue ribbon committee

I don’t think it’s necessarily a ploy to induct Art Modell, but he’s the kind of candidate who could benefit from this approach. In fact, one could see three of this type of Contributor (Modell, Tagliabue, Kraft) and two of this type of Coach (Flores, Coryell) be the ones who get in. I just hope the...
by bachslunch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:08 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: PFT reports that blue ribbon committee
Replies: 5
Views: 18169

Re: PFT reports that blue ribbon committee

From what the article John linked to says, this bypass will only hold for the 15 blue ribbon panel group, not the class of five regular inductees. It’s pretty clear there’s sufficient concern that the “whole-15-yes-or-no vote” could backfire, with no one getting in. The bad thing about this is that ...
by bachslunch
Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:08 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: USA Today’s top 100 QBs
Replies: 7
Views: 16896

USA Today’s top 100 QBs

Eh, another weakly thought through argument-starter list, for top 100 QBs, from USA Today: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/09/nfl-100-best-quarterbacks Apparently doesn’t go far enough back to include folks like Van Brocklin, Graham, Luckman, and folks like that. Apparently based on AV, with postseaso...
by bachslunch
Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:17 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Top wide receivers in history
Replies: 63
Views: 131439

Re: Top wide receivers in history

JeffreyMiller wrote:BTW, one of my favorite presidents in Grover Cleveland … a much underappreciated first executive!

Just sayin' ...
Agreed, though for me, James K. Polk tops the underappreciated presidents list, with Harry S Truman in hot pursuit. Top overrated would be Andrew Jackson and Woodrow Wilson.
by bachslunch
Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:21 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Top wide receivers in history
Replies: 63
Views: 131439

Re: Top wide receivers in history

In order:

Rice
Hutson
Alworth
Berry
Warfield

Likely will cross over significantly or be the same as lists from others.
by bachslunch
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:17 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Vontaze Burfict suspended for the rest of the season
Replies: 15
Views: 34382

Re: Vontaze Burfict suspended for the rest of the season

"Big" lineman from those earlier areas were often in the 240-250 lb. ranger--sometimes less. Yup. Betraying my age, I remember when 300 pound AFL OT Sherman Plunkett was considered freakishly heavy. No one else was that big back then. Article about Plunkett here: https://www.si.com/vault/...