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Brian wolf wrote:He associated with the wrong people. I believe he was murdered.

Reminds me of Sonny Liston.

JohnTurney wrote:my preference is that both get in.

+1 for both. It's too bad the centennial class got out of kilter (imo) with players from the 1980s etc. I'd be a fan of every 5 years or so focussing on something - so there could be a year where they focussed on the '20s.

Thanks Cliff. Really appreciate your posting this. It was a great read - really persuasive. I'd be happy to see Lewellen in the HOF, but I have Dilweg higher in my personal rankings partly because when I look at things by position, I think of him and Chamberlin, so he's essentially one of the first ...

The photo shoot for the '64 Philadelphia Gum Cleveland Browns cards feature Jim Brown's Cadillac in the background.

George Blanda comes to mind. Good one Jay. I should have thought of him. Frank Tripucka did that -- NFL from 1949-52 and AFL from 1960-63 or so, with a long stretch in Canada in between. Yes! Thanks Bob. This was the one I was looking for. I knew there was a player who had a 1950 Bowman football ca...

John, thanks for the insight on Wistert/Belichick and the Centennial class.

Personally, I don't have Emerson and Lewellen even with the others, although I like them for the HOF. I still go by this:
Wistert would be great, but learned not to get hopes up.

Both teams couldn't run Not trying to derail this - hopefully someone answers the main question, but the part I quoted stood out to me because I recalled James Wilder being a productive back. Stats in PFR didn't support my recollection as they show he was a FB his first 3 seasons then in his 4th se...

I don't get the love for Isbell... It can't be the team, because if it was just to support someone from the Packers, Dilweg is the easy choice. Ken's been talking about him since before I joined PFRA. To me, he is a Friedman level snub, not a borderline case at all, yet he dropped off. I can't even...

Brian wolf wrote:Only two super seniors

Good catch - I missed Cecil Isbell.

Looking at the starting date of the players' careers, I think Wistert's '43 was the earliest. I only glanced at the other group because it doesn't interest me as much. At least two thirds of the 31 players are HOVG, right? Clayton jumped out to me and I honestly wasn't sure on a few. I don't know HO...